With the new reval that was recently completed, all of Kingston's properties are available with the click of a mouse. Just log on to http://www.oarsystem.com/ny/kingston/main.asp and type in an address and the financial information on your property or that of your neighbors is available at your fingertips.
It's a site worth checking out.
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Thank you Jeremy. This is interesting and useful info.
Despite all the criticism and anxiety about the reval, this is a sensible approach to ensuring that assessed property values are fair and accurate.
Lets discuss this topic. Now that all Kingston residents have received their new home values.. Did ANYBODY's taxes go down?
Mine went up 700. I bought my house 7 years ago, so I don't know how the reval was accurate.
Is the value of your house the price the city would be willing to pay you, if they decided to take your home?
Search 80 Washington Ave. 4.2 million dollar assessment, no tax liability. NICE!
If we eliminate Taxes, this is all unnecessary.
Ron Paul
I cannot believe so many people have trouble understanding this:
Taxes go up because the costs of providing city services goes up. That is a function of the annual municipal budget. As the costs to privide city services --police, other labor etc.-- go up each year, so do your taxes.
The reval may simply change your share of the tax burden. As the value of your property is adjusted in he reval, so too are the values of comparable properties. As long as the inventory of the comparable properties is accurate for the tax roles, your share of the tax burden should remain roughly the same.
As a result of your property assessment being properly at 100% of market value, the municipal tax rate per $1000 of assessed value should go down. Get it?
The good news is, however, is how this will impact the benefit you might get from the Star exemption. This exemption is based upon the assessed value, and if the state department of real property confirms the tax roles ar at 100% market value, you wont get wacked by an equalization rate for your school taxes. That means your star exemption is for full market value.
My father's tax increased by $1200.00! $1200.00 extra to subsidize what? He does not live on snob hill either. Thankfully, he can afford to pay. He was at a diner today with several of his friends, all over 80, and World War 2 or Korean War veterans. One man was in total despair and did not know how he was going to pay.
This is a disgrace.
When it comes down to it, who really owns your house? When are we going to force able bodied individuals to work instead of collecting social welfare checks? When are we, the working class of Kingston, going to get a break?
Now that the market has crashed and the geniuses did the reval at the worst possible time in recent history. No one houses are worth what they are assesed for.. good job guys, another screw up by the fearless leaders.
If we eliminate the Republican Party, Ron Paul might run as a Libertarian, which is what he is.
The people who will see a decrease in their taxes, will be those who recently bought their homes in 2007. I bought mine in 2002, and my taxes after reval is 12% increase. That's just 6 years from last reval (purchase of the house). I'd hate to see the increase on 60 years.
I just love 4:44's response. So typical of a socialist.
Jeremy,
Saw you tonight at the 'pay-as-you-throw' presentation.
How about some in depth work on our current garbage/recycling programs?
You live in Ward 7 and I in Ward 9. We're neighbors. Perhaps more thought and care on the Ward front. It would be helpful to have the light shown on the issues that we face in our neighborhoods.
As for the Carnegie Library that you have stated as something you'd like to see rehabilitated as a School Board Member if elected, it's important to make known that there is project in the works by Ev Mann of the Center for Creative Education and Peter Wexler. I'm not sure why that is not reported on or discussed in the papers. Their proposal is impressive and on the move. Perhaps part of your thinking is to support their initiative?
Rebecca
Rebecca
Thanks Rebecca,
I will be doing something on the garbage proposal...after tonight's meeting I must admit that I'm not all that crazy about it anymore.
As for the Carnegie Library, I think that Mr.Mann's proposal is a good one and certainly one that I support.
- JKB
Good. Whatever the case may be, I think keeping this topic on the table and clearly stating the facts is a big help to us all. Thanks very much.
Rebecca
Anonymous 4:44 PM here.
It seems to me that taxes to pay for government is a fact of life. That's a fact for citizens in socialist states, republics, democracies, and for subjects in a constitutional monarchy.
Taxes are typically either based on income or property. Our system of using real property to pay for certain public programs and services, most notably school tax, is problematic, but that's beside the point.
The reval should result in a tax role that is more accurate, and therefore the tax burden should be shared more fairly among the owners of real property.
The assessed value of a property for the tax roles is based on market value. As home prices rise and fall, the assessed value should follow up or down. I have almost never met anyone who said that if they put their home up for sale they couldn't get what the tax assessor said it was worth. Typically, a property will sell for more - often as much as 25% or 35% more, sometimes double or triple. The purpose of the reval is to adjust and correct for these deviations.
I bought my house in 1991 and my taxes went down by $240 - big deal. Last year my taxes went up $1300 - I'm paying close to $400 a month in taxes. What I would like to know is how the square footage of my house miraculously increased (no addition). MaryAnn Bahruth taxed my porch as livable space, and she taxed a friend's two-car garage the same way. Everyone should check the information the city has on their house to make sure the information is accurate. GAR Associates did a terrible job -they were lazy. All they did to calculate the square footage of a house was to measure the footprint of the house. So that means people's garages and porches are taxed as if they're rooms.
Fact of life? The ONLY reason it has become a 'fact of life' is that we are told it is. I supported congress' move to eliminate ALL tax withholding in paychecks. Why? Because it would be the ONLY way to start a revolution against the taxes we pay, if we were given that money first, then pay later. That's why folks are so upset over property taxes. It's money in their wallets, taken away. I seem to remember another tax which started a revolution some 230 years ago.
To 5:41 PM (Blogger 8:41 AM here)
The revolution you refer to had a battle cry: "No taxation without representation" but of course that's not the issue about property taxes. You have representation and (if you bother to vote) you influence the cost you pay for the government you have. We have multiple layers of government in New York for which we pay property taxes. State, County City or municipal, and school. You might also pay taxes if you are in a special taxation district (water or sewer) or a BID (business improvement district.)
If you dont want to pay for these levels of government, work for reform (possibly to consolidate governments) or to convert school taxes from a property basis to a state income basis, or pack up your anti-social impulses and move to some place where you take no responsibility and pay no taxes to benefit the tribe.
To those of you upset with the reval, if you supported Sottile, then it's your own fault. Next time, vote Cahill.
Just curious....where is this "Snob Hill" in Kingston?
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