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The day after major Hillary Clinton fund-raisers sent a letter to Nancy Pelosi about the role of superdelegates in the nominating process (as in, please stop taking the Obama campaign's position on it), two Hillary Clinton supporters from New Jersey are circulating a petition, addressed to Howard Dean, asking that Florida and Michigan delegates be reinstated "immediately."
"If they are not reinstated by early April," the petition says, "we ask the Democratic National Committee to show cause why they should not be reinstated and establish a mandate for two full revote primaries for June."
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Dean sucks. Hillary is finished.
My boy Obama is gonna win.
Clint Brown's Love Child #2
Now why would I want to do that?
Mr. Obama
Shouldn't this be a matter of concern only between the Florida, Michigan State Democratic Party and DNC? This is not really a national issue.
Come on JB...this is like when Parody tried to bend the rules for Bradley. There are no do overs in politics.
They knew full well the consequences of holding a primary that violated party rules. Now they are crying and saying that that the party should come to their rescue and absolve them of the consequences.
Doesn't work that way. Anyway, the results are pretty much meaningless. The nomination is going to come down to the party elite who are going to pump up their chests, say they are better than everyone else and decide the nomineee with their "super" votes.
All the while, Hillary continues to do McCain's bidding by misrepresenting her own qualifications and downplaying Obama's ability to be commander in chief.
By the way, didn't see any comment from the local Hillary camp regarding the Bosnia sniper fire lies. Also didn't see you post links to any of that video. Saw the footage a number of times now. She really didn't seem to be ducking for cover now did she. Also, quite amusing to learn that despite her claims of being involved with so many important foreign policy issues, she did not have security clearance to participate in any meaningful way.
Starting to look more and more like we really can blow a sure thing.
You have to agree with 5:55. They were WARNED not to hold their primaries early. The state Democratic Party, with the legislature, decided to move FORWARD with their plans, despite the warnings. Hillary talks about 'cronyism', here's where she can start.
I also have to agree with 5:55 -- you cherry-pick the things to be outraged about, as long as they help your candidate. She didn't lie about the Bosnia trip, she misremembered...multiple times. Hey, if Roger Clemens can do it, why can't she?
But her argument that the Michigan & Florida primaries were free and fair elections is a joke, and just goes to show that she thinks he rest of us are stupid, and that she will do and say anything, as long as it helps her get elected.
But that's OK, right? I mean, after all, it's her turn.
The Clinton's call for a "do over", is just another example of their desperation. Surrogates are now saying the electoral college vote should determine the winner. They continually try to move the goalposts by changing the rules.
Surpisingly, the Clintons have run an inefficient campaign when compared to Obama. They owe millions of dollars to the small businesses that worked at their venues...the very blue collar workers they pretend to represent.
5:55 is absolutely correct. I am sick of politicians and appointed officials breaking the rules just because they can. The sense of entitlement is rampant and has got to be stopped at some point. I'd say this is a great opportunity.
So JB,
How about a link to the footage when she claims that she was ducking sniper fire and a link to the actual footage of her arrival at the airport in Bosnia. I know it doesn't serve your chosen client's interest but it is very telling and certainly worthy of report.
"...show cause why they should not be reinstated ..."
Because they broke the rules!!! Why is that so difficult to understand?
And the only thing "fair" about either primary was the way Sen. Obama showed the good sense to refuse having his name on the Michigan ballot when they broke the rules (and he STILL took over 40% of the votes as "uncommitted" delegates).
And now Billary wants those votes to be counted? What an opportunistic liar and cheat (and repugnican in Dem clothing).
6:21... in Dem's clothing?! If she doesn't look the Republican part, I don't know who does.
First order of business -- abolish skirt suits.
;)
Been There Done That :
It is a matter of everyone, Senator Obama is trying to disenfranchise millions of voters in Florida and Michigan and that effects everyone. As well as speaks volumes to his character.
- Jeremy Blaber
Jeremy, Florida and Michigan democratic party and legislature disenfranchised THEIR OWN people by breaking DNC rules! The decision is NOT Clinton's or Obama's to make. The decision has ALREADY been made, in 2007. SIGNED OFF by the Lord Dean, Cliton, Obama, Edwards, and the rest of the democratic NATIONAL party. What is Dean doing here? Petitioning HIMSELF?
Jeremy, your argument defies logic. Clinton is on record as knowing that the votes of Michigan and Florida would not count. Many voters stayed home knowing that. Clinton is now putting forth the idea that PLEDGED delegates can and should switch their vote. This directly disenfranchises voters who cast their vote for these delegates. Her hypocrisy is a major character flaw.
Jeremy Blaber wrote:
Been There Done That :
It is a matter of everyone, Senator Obama is trying to disenfranchise millions of voters in Florida and Michigan and that effects everyone. As well as speaks volumes to his character.
- Jeremy Blaber
8:18 PM
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BeenThereDoneThat response:
It is the decision of the National Democratic Committee NOT to accept any delegates from Florida or Michigan as these primaries were conducted NOT in accordance with their rules. Senators Clinton or Obama exercise no control over the actions of the National Committee. It is obvious at this point that the Democratic Presidential nominee will ultimately be selected by the super delegates at the Convention.
Since my main forte is local politics….think about the upcoming County Executive race. You will see a democratic primary for county executive in September. Then a three way candidate race in the November general election.
to continue beentheredonethat
. . . and a three way race for county executive leads to one very predictable result . . . A result that us democrats will deserve unless some leadership steps up pretty fast . . .
Jeremy...Both candidates signed documents accepting that the vote would not count. Could not get more clear than that. There is no crying in baseball or politics.
If anyone needs to chill it is Hillary. How about calling her "Chillary."
Let's get Susan a job. What is she qualified to do?
The "they" that broke the rules of the DNC in Fla. and Mich. where republicans, not the Democrats. The Mich. decision was just found to be unconstitutional. The Democrats in those states need to be given their votes back, one way or another. Spreading lies about how "they" broke the rules is not helping Obama. Keep it up and those delegates will be seated as is. A fair revote is in order.
9:21. who's going to pay for it? I really don't think there is a question around can they revote or not. Hillary wants them to be seated as is, and of course, Obama does not. How can ANYONE expect someone to support an idea, if that idea will hurt them? That is why it is unfair to even ask the candidates their opinion, or even ask them to endorse an idea.
It's a little late now, but both candidates should have taken a NEUTRAL position on this, and tell the reporters that have no opinion, the rules were set, and that they will respect the decision of the DNC. Except for Hillary, they did respect the decision back in January.
beentheredonethat, only a 3-way in September?
hey 1:04 - "leadership"? What's that? I haven't seen any in a long time...
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