I have such a tremendous respect for John Kerry and I respect his desicion to support a candidate but I'm disappointed that he has backed Obama over Clinton. I'm not surprised, Kerry lives his life like John F. Kennedy, his role model. Obama and Kennedy both speak of hope and their messages are very similar...the major difference is that Obama's message is not real, it's a fantasy If we're not careful we will elect another Republican in 2008.
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that endorsement is the kiss of death. I'm glad he didn't endorse Hillary.
I share your concerns here... I was a big Kerry fan, back in the day, until I got wind of some of his connections...
And Obama? I just don't know... Maybe the fact that he hails (I do believe) from Chicago, Illinois, is what kinda (associations via my research...) freaks me out.
I wish Edwards would take the day, truly. Because Clinton (although I would love to see a woman become president) "might" have some of those same Republican tendencies, via her close association with the White House and some associated high-powered international groups over the last few years.
Ah well, there is no perfect world.
I just HOPE whoever gets in there really intends to make a difference on behalf of the well-being of the American people!
I think Obama's message is real,but his support is not. If you probe his supporters, they invariably either threaten to vote republican or against Hillary. In NH McCain had a chance to win, unlike in Iowa, so the polling suggested Obama. When it came time to vote, they dropped their false flags and voted McCain. Today Rove attacked Obama to curry more democratic support for him. He had previously offered to work for Obama. Day by day it has become clearer that the republicans think Obama is the easiest candidate to beat and that by feigning support for him now, they can derail Hillary. Kerry has bad baggage and that is not a good endorsement. His failure is not something democrats want to tie to their current candidate. Btw, did you catch Huckabee asking Colbert to be VP? Colbert is a good actor to fool these conservatives.
BTW - what "I" mean by that is an end to this imperialistic warfare; an end to the violations (now occurring) of our Civil rights;the end of elitist chronism (sp?); the implimentation of a free quality healthcare system for all; a fair redistributation policy of the wealth of the nation that would enable everyone to access (freely) higher education; a good hard look at - and some serious readjustments in regard to the way our legal system, voting system, etc., operate; and the implementation and/or contination of some social welfare programs - [those that have a proven scientific research-based foundation and/or track record, and are NOT serving as covert mechanisms of social control, brainwashing, repression and mass denial].
I still see Edwards as our brightest (in a dimly lit world) hope! So "GO EDWARDS!"
It looks like your using Bill Clintons negative talking points..."fairytale", "fantasy". Obama's message is very real and so is his candidacy.
Both Hillary Clinton and especially John Edwards would have loved Kerry's support.
Who did Walter Mondale endorse in 1988?
Edwards probably has the same unsettling connections. On the face,he's obviously the most electable. The tried and true model of white,southern,and male. However in terms of bringing real substantive change to our society in the form of equality and fairness,with the best interests of everyone paramount,all three top democrats are quite capable and likely to accomplish that end. We should be proud and confident in our choices. The republican side has only divisive sectarians that serve the few they represent. Every one in their own way is repulsive to my sensibilities. While I'd support any of our candidates,I couldn't support any of theirs. I have some concerns that the supporters of Obama and Hillary may have alterior motives(more so Obama's),but Edwards' supporters seem the most altruistic. It is disturbing that some democratic leaning independants forget that their choice has pledged to support the eventual nominee and that by pledging their support to one to the exclusion of the others is disloyal.
i suppose you are right in the fact that going independent takes one out of the primary loop.
and THAT sucks - revealing my naivette around some of this.
when i decided to go independent it was without the realization that this meant i couldn't vote in the primaries.
i was thinking - only - that the primaries seemed like a way to "shape" the stats - and i wanted to make a move away from that.
i am sorry about that. truly.
as Oscar Lewis (1966) wrote, those of us that grew up in the "culture of poverty" tend to be "provincial" --- not aware of much that is going on outside of our little "box."
so, mistakes aside, I have "come a long way baby" --- and i generally don't make the same mistakes twice.
i never got any response on my change form anyhow - and i've been wondering what is up with that...
so maybe i'll track it down and (if possible) cancel the change i had put in for.
i admit to being a "work in progress" and that i make mistakes (some with a capital DUH!).
so the best that i can hope for is that others reading along here, that might have been leaning towards making the same mistake (changing from Democrat to Independent)- learn from mine...
and that poor kids start getting access to quality education and higher education and wider cultural knowlege (this is a familial, cultural, economic and political issue) so that they aren't - like me - trying to play this game - years later - on a floor that has been "greased with lard."
there is no shame in not knowing what one has never been taught...
and i have to constantly remind myself of that...
the really important thing being to try to make up for one's deficits, when one realizes they are there, as quickly and comprehensively as one can...
and to fight for changes, so that this "pyramid of perversity" (a term I use in one of my books) gets dumped on its head - or (better yet) flattened out in the shape of a pancake (every single person matters!) - as it should be.
i guess Edwards was Kerry's running mate (according to Cahill's blog) - so i'm starting to feel like (outside of my areas of intense research) a super-DUH.
bad day for the old noodle I guess.
but, even if i don't know my names and ALL of thier associations (what a rubix-cube it is...) - i do know my own values and i try REAL HARD (with my deficits) to LIVE them.
wouldn't it be great if more people did just THAT?
People do try to live their values. Unfortunately their values are shaped by others whose values are less than beneficial to their fellow citizens. Roots of poverty are definitely a gift to a person's outlook on life. Education is the great equalizer and the internet is helping that tremendously. No one can know everything, but access to finding out is a beautiful thing. We need public financing of elections so that the field is flattened. The only advantage then would be intelligence and sincerety to bring opportunity to all. Regardless of who wins the nomination,the democratic side is working towards that end.
First of all, Kerry's endorsement of Obama won't give him much of a boost. Kerry is so 2004.
Second, Jeremy - please tell us, why do you say his message isn't real? I'd really appreciate some kind of explaination here. I'm truly undecided btwn Clinton and Obama (both are excellent), but the more people criticize Obama for inexplicable reasons the more it turns me off to Clinton. If all she appeals to are people who are so obstinate and unappreciative of the great democratic choices America has for president (Edwards included), the less likely I am to identify with her base.
(By the way there are thousands, if not millions, out there just like me.)
Third, to 7:22 - hasn't Obama already begun to demonstrate his unifying appeal? He is reaching audiences to the right and left of Hillary. There's no "false hope" about that.
Kerry's endorsement might have given Obama some aded juice for New Hampshire, but it came too late for that. How like John Kerry to miss the opportunity to influence a campaign outcome!
Fred Drucker wrote that "empathy is the number one leadership skill." (Outside of church, I sometimes meditate on this...) As Hillary takes her political cues from "I feel your pain" Bill, she has become an empathetic figure on the campaign trail. Women especially are persuaded she is one of them (and I guess she is.) By comparison, Obama seems like an empty suit spouting fancy likable speeches. As a candidate for president, he seems to lack the center of gravity needed. It seems to me ("I, anonymous") that those white Republican men in the general election cant beat the Clinton's approach any better than Sen. Obama will in the primary.
On the possibility of a Bloomberg independent bid: From this vantage point, I predict that if Mormon Romney, Liberal Guiliani, or loose cannon McCain is the GOP candidate it seems likely for somebody on the Christian right (perhaps Huckabee, rather than a moderate GOP new yawka like Bloomberg) to run an independent campaign. Since it's the far-right evangelical Republicans who decide the nomination, I think its a safe bet they will pass on those guys like they did in Iowa.
So, I further predict that Huckabee of Arkansas (gasp!) will be the nominee for the GOP... and that NY's Hillary Clinton will be the Dem nominee. I bet Hillary will select Bill Richardson of NM as her veep, and in such a case, it matters not who Huckabee selects - he is toast. Hillary will surely be the first woman US President. (How's that for change?)
9:38-I never said "false hope". I'm certain his hope and that of his true supporters is real. My point is that his base is being inflated by false flag republicans that claim to be Obama/McCain fencesitters. That's simply not possible unless you throw out all consideration to platform issues. Today Dailykos urged democrats in Michigan to retaliate in kind by voting for Romney to falsely inflate his base against McCain. This is real. Obama supporters shouldn't fall victim to this. Hope supported by belief is one thing but hope supported by phony electability stats is empty. Obama has no support from the right as you say. It's a scam that's victimizing you. It was proven in New Hampshire.
Funny...the Jew John Kerry (Kohn) endosing someone with the name Barack Hussein Obama!
Only in America I guess...
That's the beauty of our secular democracy. Race and religion are discarded for more important issues. Only those who are insecure about their own heritage feel inferior and denigrate others'.
Well at least now we see what Yankee Jim looks like, as opposed to our main view of him in the past as a "mere internet texter that mostly inflamed the situation at KHS with racism a while back"...now we visually know what to avoid, thank the Lord...
I frankly am baffled at the statement that John Kerry lives his life like John F. Kennedy...he is a chronic extramarital affair addict...has Celiac Disease misdiagnosed as Addison's Disease...says words like "ayahhh"(air)...takes daily steroids...smokes cigars...plays golf...and has a ridiculously good sense of humor most of the time?
Hmm...am I missing something, Jeremy? To me, it like comparing Heinz Ketchup to Contadina Tomato Sauce( or SOMETHING like that--the latter has more quality ingredients, although the former may be thick(er) in some ways!!)...
As for the main point of the starting post...I agree with one of the other posters...John Edwards is the best candidate...
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